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Post by Burkeomatic on May 18, 2022 3:33:32 GMT
I have finally started building bwarz P-36! I have some of the plans laid out and going, thus far, all I have done is get the fuselage core cut out and I am getting it glued up. He makes some excellent plans, definitely the best I've seen for someone who doesn't get paid for it. Therefore, since I know he put so much time and effort into the plans, I have to do a good build for him! I don't know if anyone else has built this yet, I may have to pay it forward by designing an stl for a wasp or cyclone engine to stick in the cowl (if I get time). I plan on powering it with my typical 3536 warbird set up, 10x7 props and a 60A esc. That set up gives more than adequate power and speed on just 3S, and it turns into a rocket on 4S. I have a 3548/100A esc set up for something I am going to build, but I don't think this is the plane for it. Look at my beautiful drying jig!  2022-05-17_09-41-57 by Burkeomatic, on Flickr |
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Post by ratcheeroo on May 18, 2022 19:26:23 GMT
Looking good. I think I should give this a go seeing as how I have a P-38, P-39 and a P-40 LMAO. Maybe even do a P-47 to keep the numbers consecutive, bubble top just because.
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 18, 2022 20:50:41 GMT
Looking good. I think I should give this a go seeing as how I have a P-38, P-39 and a P-40 LMAO. Maybe even do a P-47 to keep the numbers consecutive, bubble top just because. Then you need to do the Seversky P-35. Bubble tops are evil on anything except a P-51, and they are somewhat questionable on those.  |
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Post by bwarz on May 18, 2022 21:19:18 GMT
Yea I do like the razorback P51 so much better than bubbletop. The bubbletop P47 just looks odd 
Coolness to see one being built! When time and motivation are both lacking I surely get nothing done - that is specifically directed at the wing rework and my P40E build. Your building of the P36 very well may provide the motivation to try out V3 wings which are exactly the same on the P40 and P36. The V2 turned out nice, but the wing grew a bit at the root, so I tried to correct that with V3. We'll see how it goes. The wings that you have with the plans work fine, just the leading edge is that butt edge like other designs. That also affected the mating of the wing to the fuselage, with a rather unsightly gap at the front (which is ultimately covered by the wing fillets). I see you cut out the wing mount as designed - you may want to hang on to the FB removed in case you need to add material back for a better fit. Note the skins at this area as well as you build - the parts as provided will likely have that gap at the front.
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 18, 2022 22:06:24 GMT
Yea I do like the razorback P51 so much better than bubbletop. The bubbletop P47 just looks odd 
Coolness to see one being built! When time and motivation are both lacking I surely get nothing done - that is specifically directed at the wing rework and my P40E build. Your building of the P36 very well may provide the motivation to try out V3 wings which are exactly the same on the P40 and P36. The V2 turned out nice, but the wing grew a bit at the root, so I tried to correct that with V3. We'll see how it goes. The wings that you have with the plans work fine, just the leading edge is that butt edge like other designs. That also affected the mating of the wing to the fuselage, with a rather unsightly gap at the front (which is ultimately covered by the wing fillets). I see you cut out the wing mount as designed - you may want to hang on to the FB removed in case you need to add material back for a better fit. Note the skins at this area as well as you build - the parts as provided will likely have that gap at the front.
Should I build the wing first, or put the formers on first? I think the last plane like this I built I put the wing on and then the formers after. Fold over wings are nice when you can do them, but they aren't a requirement. I don't think my skyray, F-106, or my FABU have fold over wings, it just isn't possible within the boundaries of the foam board. You can make them look nice enough if you take your time. If you really wanted to, you could just split a wood dowel or something if you really needed a perfectly rounded leading edge that much. I've also thought of leaving about a half inch to an inch of paper on the top LE of the wing and gluing it under, so it would be an extension of the foam paper. Kind of like one big elongated piece of foam. |
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Post by bwarz on May 19, 2022 1:24:37 GMT
On both of my designs I've built the fuselage with the formers and skins before installing the wing. The rear skins can be a real pita with the wing attached to the fuselage core. I was better with the wing cutout on the BF109 and once I clarify the wing situation on the P36/P40 I'll redo the appropriate skins and the fuse core. I guess that doesn't help you much now, but with the wing fillets it hides easily  |
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Post by bwarz on May 19, 2022 1:26:19 GMT
BTW someone wanted me to do a P51 and that pic you posted has me wanting to do a P51B now! (I most definitely have ADD - or Squirrel as I like to call it)
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 19, 2022 3:34:22 GMT
BTW someone wanted me to do a P51 and that pic you posted has me wanting to do a P51B now! (I most definitely have ADD - or Squirrel as I like to call it) Ha! Gorilla glue will fix it I started laying out the wing panels, then I started piecing together some of the skins for the mig, then I moved on to the baby night fury. This is why I get nothing done. I've also been thinking about how to finish my jet design, and I think I have it, but I need to go to bed soon, I think I'll work on my jet tomorrow. It is my last jet for a while, I swear! Good to know on the formers, I'll squirrel that direction tomorrow and start getting those cut out. What nav lights did you use? I may go ahead and purchase some. What would be really cheap is if i figured out how to make those myself and build them. I am ok with electronics, but not knowing what parts to buy. |
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 19, 2022 4:07:04 GMT
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Post by oliverw on May 19, 2022 5:29:40 GMT
Split flap has got my vote |
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Post by bwarz on May 20, 2022 0:13:00 GMT
split flaps all the way! it looks cool with them under the fuse |
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Post by bwarz on May 20, 2022 0:17:31 GMT
BTW someone wanted me to do a P51 and that pic you posted has me wanting to do a P51B now! (I most definitely have ADD - or Squirrel as I like to call it) Ha! Gorilla glue will fix it I started laying out the wing panels, then I started piecing together some of the skins for the mig, then I moved on to the baby night fury. This is why I get nothing done. I've also been thinking about how to finish my jet design, and I think I have it, but I need to go to bed soon, I think I'll work on my jet tomorrow. It is my last jet for a while, I swear! Good to know on the formers, I'll squirrel that direction tomorrow and start getting those cut out. What nav lights did you use? I may go ahead and purchase some. What would be really cheap is if i figured out how to make those myself and build them. I am ok with electronics, but not knowing what parts to buy. I used 'straw hat' leds and an old centronics printer cable for the wire. I still haven't put them in, but the idea was to solder two together one up one down. I had some ideas of how to put them in but haven't moved on it. I've the problem as you, I have a bunch of things started and putz with little stuff on each one in while. ill dig up a link to the leds I used... |
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 20, 2022 0:53:40 GMT
Ha! Gorilla glue will fix it I started laying out the wing panels, then I started piecing together some of the skins for the mig, then I moved on to the baby night fury. This is why I get nothing done. I've also been thinking about how to finish my jet design, and I think I have it, but I need to go to bed soon, I think I'll work on my jet tomorrow. It is my last jet for a while, I swear! Good to know on the formers, I'll squirrel that direction tomorrow and start getting those cut out. What nav lights did you use? I may go ahead and purchase some. What would be really cheap is if i figured out how to make those myself and build them. I am ok with electronics, but not knowing what parts to buy. I used 'straw hat' leds and an old centronics printer cable for the wire. I still haven't put them in, but the idea was to solder two together one up one down. I had some ideas of how to put them in but haven't moved on it. I've the problem as you, I have a bunch of things started and putz with little stuff on each one in while. ill dig up a link to the leds I used... Thanks, I need to find a good price on those LED strip lights used for night flyers too, I have a whole bunch of dead servos I could make leads out of for them. I'll get the other lower wing panel started tonight, then get some plans taped together for the formers and get those started. All while working on my mini night fury and being angry that one of the BG motors for my X-UAV clouds came in DOA. |
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 20, 2022 4:49:19 GMT
Ok, tomorrow marks the beginning of former hell. I tend to go slow on these, they are important. Don't expect a lightning build on this. I'm making it look pretty.  2022-05-19_11-47-40 by Burkeomatic, on Flickr |
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 24, 2022 4:24:23 GMT
I am not ignoring this, I am cutting out a couple formers a night. Almost there.
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