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Post by Burkeomatic on May 14, 2022 23:25:45 GMT
Ok, I bought one of these little boogers because I wanted something small and compact I could take places in the car with me and fly almost everywhere. The reviews were decent enough, but as with most RC reviews you never know what biases someone might have, and so on and so forth. Ever notice those people that just hate Jets/Twins/High wing planes etc? Well I took the plunge and got one. I bought mine of RDQ because I like the way they are fighting the federal government on the stupid RID thing and their prices are fair to smoking hot if you catch a sale, which I did. The RTF kit is $89.99, but at the time I bought it, you could upgrade to the FPV kit for $40 more and that included an AIO camera specifically meant for the plane that plugs directly in to the ESC, and also the ZOHD kopilot lite. So I bought that for $119.99. It can be found here. www.racedayquads.com/products/zohd-pnp-drift-fpv-plane?variant=39336271052913Ok, I don't really like smaller planes that much, the servos are finicky and break easily, I hate messing with little parts with my big, shaky hands, and they don't usually seem to deal with the wind around here well, not that it is extreme, but it is enough to notice and hinder some lower power more floaty planes. So being a plane with a little 1407 motor and a 34 inch wingspan, I kind of had my doubts but I took the chance anyways. It comes with a 3x5 prop for 3S and a 5x5 prop for 2S. I went ahead and bought a couple of 1100mah RDQ 3S batteries since I didn't have any XT30 connectors and that is what this plane uses. Weather to day was sunny, a high of 99 degrees, and 8-10mph winds gusting to 15-20mph. Putting it together was straight forward, and the flight controller set up is simple. I really like the pushrod adjusters on this plane, far better than any other kit I have had. The ZOHD copilot lite is pretty much identical to the FC sparrow flight controller which are only $25 and I have come to like their simplicity. If you need a good stabilizer and geofencing/RTH for cheap, these are great for the price. www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803166175841.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&memo1=freelisting&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=15223999353&albag=127961745565&trgt=470776188689&crea=en1005003352490593&netw=u&device=c&albpg=470776188689&albpd=en1005003352490593&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpv2TBhDoARIsALBnVnll9fXvBe-EVTBF191RfWBYP-TSxDBBVlKAsUn1HHUDkqsqzaq_FrsaAkT0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=61d88a0b36a24a4da0666868c6773e5b&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdaptI started by setting the plane up in manual mode. It's small size and large ailerons make it twitchy. The rates definitely need to dialed down, but I didn't do that and just decided to white knuckle it. I was able to get it manually trimmed out in about 3 or 4 minutes. You need to get these flight controllers set up with manual trim, as when the gyro is engaged, it pretty much ignores whatever electronic measures you have taken (IE trim, rates, etc) and relies on your plane to be manually trimmed. So twitchiness aside, I think a beginner can fly this. I stuffed it kind of hard and cartwheeled it once, and no damage, so it must me somewhat tough. I got the gyro turned on, and launched it and it flew great. It will dip a tad on launch, so it needs some up elevator. Steady, turned plenty sharp enough under autolevel mode (autolevel is the only mode on these gyros, there is autolevel with geofencing/rth) so then I brought it back and fired up the ole eachine goggles and got it connected. I stuck around the immediate area at first, I had the geofencing set to minimum (100m) and tested that to ensure it worked well, and it did. Then I flipped it to no GPS mode and flew it like that. I think this controller still has a geofence on it, because once I got far enough out, the plane would still RTH, or maybe it was hitting the failsafe on the receiver and it lost signal for a second and decided to come back home. I took it out about a half a mile, and the distance it would RTH at seemed to vary, so I would lean toward the latter. Time to upgrade my TX. Anyways, I had two 1100mah 3s batteries, and I got some pretty stinking good flight times with them. Puttering around at half throttle (the plane will fly slower, but where's the fun in that?) I very, very conservatively got 30 minutes a pack. I landed at 10.9 volts, so still plenty more juice in there. My second pack I did a goggles down launch, and it worked very nicely. I had a blast with it! A couple of things to note, the directions with the plane stated not to exceed 50km/h. Ok, well this plane can easily exceed that in level flight on 3s at least. I think 2S will be enough, and I should have some 2s1p batteries coming in any day now that will give me insane flight times. Anyways, back to the speed thing. I think that number is conservative. But the warning also states this is not an aerobatic plane. While it is capable of some basic aerobatics which I tried on manual mode, it doesn't like them. There were a couple of times pulling out of a shallow dive flying FPV that the plane shook violently, and I was going pretty quick. My theory is that stuff was flexing, and that was causing the plane to go nuts, and the gyro to go nuts in return. There were a couple of scary moments at first, but once I figured out what was causing them, they went away. I thought I was going to lose the plane the first time, but I just let off and let the gyro do it's thing and all was fine. So I wouldn't say it is the speed so much as it is the high G maneuvers. Also, landing in manual mode is a bit tricky, not because the plane is hard to fly, mainly because it doesn't want to come down. It is so light, floaty, and glideresque that when you flare at the end of your landing, it shoots right back up. So you have to be very careful and gentle on the flare. FPV landings with the gyro on the other hand are dirt simple and make you look like you have been doing this with this plane for years. TLDR: This plane flies great, is an excellent first FPV plane for anyone (and a great second plane for anyone) and would pretty much idiot proof your first FPV experience. It doesn't blast through the sky at 50-60mph like the night fury, but is a little easier to fly and a ton of fun. I am happy with it not only for the money I paid but just for the shear experience in general. It handles 10mph wind and some gusts decently enough, and I am willing to test it in more wind next time. Yeah, it gets bumped around, but not too bad. So this is a buy! It has cemented a permanent place in my hangar and is too much fun. At the very least, if you are looking to scratch build something, this would be a good set up to duplicate.
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Post by ratcheeroo on May 15, 2022 13:20:09 GMT
Ok, I bought one of these little boogers because I wanted something small and compact I could take places in the car with me and fly almost everywhere. The reviews were decent enough, but as with most RC reviews you never know what biases someone might have, and so on and so forth. Ever notice those people that just hate Jets/Twins/High wing planes etc? Well I took the plunge and got one. I bought mine of RDQ because I like the way they are fighting the federal government on the stupid RID thing and their prices are fair to smoking hot if you catch a sale, which I did. The RTF kit is $89.99, but at the time I bought it, you could upgrade to the FPV kit for $40 more and that included an AIO camera specifically meant for the plane that plugs directly in to the ESC, and also the ZOHD kopilot lite. So I bought that for $119.99. It can be found here. www.racedayquads.com/products/zohd-pnp-drift-fpv-plane?variant=39336271052913Ok, I don't really like smaller planes that much, the servos are finicky and break easily, I hate messing with little parts with my big, shaky hands, and they don't usually seem to deal with the wind around here well, not that it is extreme, but it is enough to notice and hinder some lower power more floaty planes. So being a plane with a little 1407 motor and a 34 inch wingspan, I kind of had my doubts but I took the chance anyways. It comes with a 3x5 prop for 3S and a 5x5 prop for 2S. I went ahead and bought a couple of 1100mah RDQ 3S batteries since I didn't have any XT30 connectors and that is what this plane uses. Weather to day was sunny, a high of 99 degrees, and 8-10mph winds gusting to 15-20mph. Putting it together was straight forward, and the flight controller set up is simple. I really like the pushrod adjusters on this plane, far better than any other kit I have had. The ZOHD copilot lite is pretty much identical to the FC sparrow flight controller which are only $25 and I have come to like their simplicity. If you need a good stabilizer and geofencing/RTH for cheap, these are great for the price. www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803166175841.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&memo1=freelisting&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=15223999353&albag=127961745565&trgt=470776188689&crea=en1005003352490593&netw=u&device=c&albpg=470776188689&albpd=en1005003352490593&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpv2TBhDoARIsALBnVnll9fXvBe-EVTBF191RfWBYP-TSxDBBVlKAsUn1HHUDkqsqzaq_FrsaAkT0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=61d88a0b36a24a4da0666868c6773e5b&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdaptI started by setting the plane up in manual mode. It's small size and large ailerons make it twitchy. The rates definitely need to dialed down, but I didn't do that and just decided to white knuckle it. I was able to get it manually trimmed out in about 3 or 4 minutes. You need to get these flight controllers set up with manual trim, as when the gyro is engaged, it pretty much ignores whatever electronic measures you have taken (IE trim, rates, etc) and relies on your plane to be manually trimmed. So twitchiness aside, I think a beginner can fly this. I stuffed it kind of hard and cartwheeled it once, and no damage, so it must me somewhat tough. I got the gyro turned on, and launched it and it flew great. It will dip a tad on launch, so it needs some up elevator. Steady, turned plenty sharp enough under autolevel mode (autolevel is the only mode on these gyros, there is autolevel with geofencing/rth) so then I brought it back and fired up the ole eachine goggles and got it connected. I stuck around the immediate area at first, I had the geofencing set to minimum (100m) and tested that to ensure it worked well, and it did. Then I flipped it to no GPS mode and flew it like that. I think this controller still has a geofence on it, because once I got far enough out, the plane would still RTH, or maybe it was hitting the failsafe on the receiver and it lost signal for a second and decided to come back home. I took it out about a half a mile, and the distance it would RTH at seemed to vary, so I would lean toward the latter. Time to upgrade my TX. Anyways, I had two 1100mah 3s batteries, and I got some pretty stinking good flight times with them. Puttering around at half throttle (the plane will fly slower, but where's the fun in that?) I very, very conservatively got 30 minutes a pack. I landed at 10.9 volts, so still plenty more juice in there. My second pack I did a goggles down launch, and it worked very nicely. I had a blast with it! A couple of things to note, the directions with the plane stated not to exceed 50km/h. Ok, well this plane can easily exceed that in level flight on 3s at least. I think 2S will be enough, and I should have some 2s1p batteries coming in any day now that will give me insane flight times. Anyways, back to the speed thing. I think that number is conservative. But the warning also states this is not an aerobatic plane. While it is capable of some basic aerobatics which I tried on manual mode, it doesn't like them. There were a couple of times pulling out of a shallow dive flying FPV that the plane shook violently, and I was going pretty quick. My theory is that stuff was flexing, and that was causing the plane to go nuts, and the gyro to go nuts in return. There were a couple of scary moments at first, but once I figured out what was causing them, they went away. I thought I was going to lose the plane the first time, but I just let off and let the gyro do it's thing and all was fine. So I wouldn't say it is the speed so much as it is the high G maneuvers. Also, landing in manual mode is a bit tricky, not because the plane is hard to fly, mainly because it doesn't want to come down. It is so light, floaty, and glideresque that when you flare at the end of your landing, it shoots right back up. So you have to be very careful and gentle on the flare. FPV landings with the gyro on the other hand are dirt simple and make you look like you have been doing this with this plane for years. TLDR: This plane flies great, is an excellent first FPV plane for anyone (and a great second plane for anyone) and would pretty much idiot proof your first FPV experience. It doesn't blast through the sky at 50-60mph like the night fury, but is a little easier to fly and a ton of fun. I am happy with it not only for the money I paid but just for the shear experience in general. It handles 10mph wind and some gusts decently enough, and I am willing to test it in more wind next time. Yeah, it gets bumped around, but not too bad. So this is a buy! It has cemented a permanent place in my hangar and is too much fun. At the very least, if you are looking to scratch build something, this would be a good set up to duplicate. My sub 250 plane is a Talon knock off, LOL. Getting closer to buying a "real" plane , the Drift is a good contender, but I have my eye on a 50mm EDF L39 that I can get for around the same price. Decisions,decisions LOL
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 16, 2022 1:56:27 GMT
Ok, I bought one of these little boogers because I wanted something small and compact I could take places in the car with me and fly almost everywhere. The reviews were decent enough, but as with most RC reviews you never know what biases someone might have, and so on and so forth. Ever notice those people that just hate Jets/Twins/High wing planes etc? Well I took the plunge and got one. I bought mine of RDQ because I like the way they are fighting the federal government on the stupid RID thing and their prices are fair to smoking hot if you catch a sale, which I did. The RTF kit is $89.99, but at the time I bought it, you could upgrade to the FPV kit for $40 more and that included an AIO camera specifically meant for the plane that plugs directly in to the ESC, and also the ZOHD kopilot lite. So I bought that for $119.99. It can be found here. www.racedayquads.com/products/zohd-pnp-drift-fpv-plane?variant=39336271052913Ok, I don't really like smaller planes that much, the servos are finicky and break easily, I hate messing with little parts with my big, shaky hands, and they don't usually seem to deal with the wind around here well, not that it is extreme, but it is enough to notice and hinder some lower power more floaty planes. So being a plane with a little 1407 motor and a 34 inch wingspan, I kind of had my doubts but I took the chance anyways. It comes with a 3x5 prop for 3S and a 5x5 prop for 2S. I went ahead and bought a couple of 1100mah RDQ 3S batteries since I didn't have any XT30 connectors and that is what this plane uses. Weather to day was sunny, a high of 99 degrees, and 8-10mph winds gusting to 15-20mph. Putting it together was straight forward, and the flight controller set up is simple. I really like the pushrod adjusters on this plane, far better than any other kit I have had. The ZOHD copilot lite is pretty much identical to the FC sparrow flight controller which are only $25 and I have come to like their simplicity. If you need a good stabilizer and geofencing/RTH for cheap, these are great for the price. www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803166175841.html?_randl_currency=USD&_randl_shipto=US&src=google&memo1=freelisting&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=15223999353&albag=127961745565&trgt=470776188689&crea=en1005003352490593&netw=u&device=c&albpg=470776188689&albpd=en1005003352490593&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpv2TBhDoARIsALBnVnll9fXvBe-EVTBF191RfWBYP-TSxDBBVlKAsUn1HHUDkqsqzaq_FrsaAkT0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=9f38d36ca6774c4f969fb2e810577e46-1652568373515-05047-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=61d88a0b36a24a4da0666868c6773e5b&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdaptI started by setting the plane up in manual mode. It's small size and large ailerons make it twitchy. The rates definitely need to dialed down, but I didn't do that and just decided to white knuckle it. I was able to get it manually trimmed out in about 3 or 4 minutes. You need to get these flight controllers set up with manual trim, as when the gyro is engaged, it pretty much ignores whatever electronic measures you have taken (IE trim, rates, etc) and relies on your plane to be manually trimmed. So twitchiness aside, I think a beginner can fly this. I stuffed it kind of hard and cartwheeled it once, and no damage, so it must me somewhat tough. I got the gyro turned on, and launched it and it flew great. It will dip a tad on launch, so it needs some up elevator. Steady, turned plenty sharp enough under autolevel mode (autolevel is the only mode on these gyros, there is autolevel with geofencing/rth) so then I brought it back and fired up the ole eachine goggles and got it connected. I stuck around the immediate area at first, I had the geofencing set to minimum (100m) and tested that to ensure it worked well, and it did. Then I flipped it to no GPS mode and flew it like that. I think this controller still has a geofence on it, because once I got far enough out, the plane would still RTH, or maybe it was hitting the failsafe on the receiver and it lost signal for a second and decided to come back home. I took it out about a half a mile, and the distance it would RTH at seemed to vary, so I would lean toward the latter. Time to upgrade my TX. Anyways, I had two 1100mah 3s batteries, and I got some pretty stinking good flight times with them. Puttering around at half throttle (the plane will fly slower, but where's the fun in that?) I very, very conservatively got 30 minutes a pack. I landed at 10.9 volts, so still plenty more juice in there. My second pack I did a goggles down launch, and it worked very nicely. I had a blast with it! A couple of things to note, the directions with the plane stated not to exceed 50km/h. Ok, well this plane can easily exceed that in level flight on 3s at least. I think 2S will be enough, and I should have some 2s1p batteries coming in any day now that will give me insane flight times. Anyways, back to the speed thing. I think that number is conservative. But the warning also states this is not an aerobatic plane. While it is capable of some basic aerobatics which I tried on manual mode, it doesn't like them. There were a couple of times pulling out of a shallow dive flying FPV that the plane shook violently, and I was going pretty quick. My theory is that stuff was flexing, and that was causing the plane to go nuts, and the gyro to go nuts in return. There were a couple of scary moments at first, but once I figured out what was causing them, they went away. I thought I was going to lose the plane the first time, but I just let off and let the gyro do it's thing and all was fine. So I wouldn't say it is the speed so much as it is the high G maneuvers. Also, landing in manual mode is a bit tricky, not because the plane is hard to fly, mainly because it doesn't want to come down. It is so light, floaty, and glideresque that when you flare at the end of your landing, it shoots right back up. So you have to be very careful and gentle on the flare. FPV landings with the gyro on the other hand are dirt simple and make you look like you have been doing this with this plane for years. TLDR: This plane flies great, is an excellent first FPV plane for anyone (and a great second plane for anyone) and would pretty much idiot proof your first FPV experience. It doesn't blast through the sky at 50-60mph like the night fury, but is a little easier to fly and a ton of fun. I am happy with it not only for the money I paid but just for the shear experience in general. It handles 10mph wind and some gusts decently enough, and I am willing to test it in more wind next time. Yeah, it gets bumped around, but not too bad. So this is a buy! It has cemented a permanent place in my hangar and is too much fun. At the very least, if you are looking to scratch build something, this would be a good set up to duplicate. My sub 250 plane is a Talon knock off, LOL. Getting closer to buying a "real" plane , the Drift is a good contender, but I have my eye on a 50mm EDF L39 that I can get for around the same price. Decisions,decisions LOL I flew it again for about an hour today, it was windier, which can create some scary moments. I was out 1000 or so feet down wind and i hit the edge of the geofence, and the plane was turning around, and I got hit with a wind gust, and about 10 seconds later the plane did. That is kind of still weird to me that the plane feels the gusts earlier or later. Anyway, after it got shaken around and I had control back I was WOT into the gust and it felt like the plane was barely moving. I pointed the nose down to pick up some speed and as soon as the wind stopped the plane accelerated very, very quickly. I mainly just flew it between goal posts today and followed cars around as the pulled in and out to pick kids up. I let some kid fly it fpv today. It was really no threat, I just threw it into geofence mode and handed it to him and let him put the goggles on. When the plane will just hang out in the air by itself there is really no threat. When you get scared, let off the sticks and the plane just bounces around in the area. I am going to upgrade the antenna on my flysky radio. That is what I have been using. I have been having a hard time getting the Jumper to bind. I can stick a crossfire module in the jumper, but if you look at where I have been flying, the legality could be questioned anyways. The 500m range of the Flysky radio seems about accurate, it seems to vary between 300-500m for me depending on obstacles and such. Apparently upgrading the antenna lets you get 1000m-2000m so that is about as far as I want to go where I currently fly.
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Post by Burkeomatic on May 16, 2022 2:12:47 GMT
This is kind of where I fly, the highlighted area is what I try to stick to. I cross the road sometimes at blue, and sometimes it feels like it may get close to some houses, but I am not sure. Pretty high up 100-200ft. I think that is legal as far as "avoiding populated areas." **my spotter swears they can see it the whole time** flying area by Burkeomatic, on Flickr
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Post by Burkeomatic on Jun 4, 2022 22:08:43 GMT
I got in my 2S1P batteries the other day. I took it out with them, and I am not sure if I like it better or not.
The 5x5 prop gives enough thrust, and it can still over power wind well enough. But I have to fly at a higher throttle value. But then after watching some of my footage, I was going a decent bit faster than I thought. The plane is heavier, so it is probably break even on the wind thing, but it is more nose heavy. I am 50/50 on it. I am getting longer flight time, and I do know you can drain them lower, but I am not that impressed as opposed to the 3S 1100mah battery.
Here is the tail end of a flight, flight timer is at the bottom right. I had flown about 10 minutes before and it reset. Did a little pass the opposite direction for the dragon's last known location.
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Post by Burkeomatic on Jun 5, 2022 2:52:48 GMT
I figured out something.
I was allowing this thing to learn it's orientation with the attitude too far up. I used a trick I used to get my dart flying semi-decent and eyeballed the wings to get it level attitude. So, it is flying pretty locked in for a 250g plane that has nearly a 1 meter wing span. I am pretty happy with it. It helps it with the wind too. Being pitched up is a great way to get blown around.
So if you happen to get one of these, as the gyro is orienting, just press flush down in the fuselage to where it is flat on the ground, it should look perfectly level. I had been overcompensating pitch up from where I set up the night fury. Different gyro, different plane. I don't have to fight to keep it nose down anymore.
As a side note, with the 2S1P, it is pretty dang nose heavy. In manual mode, it takes a fair amount of up elevator to keep it straight. Kind of one of those cases where the gyro is covering for a bad tendency of the plane. Not that big of a deal, but it is what it is. It doesn't fly that much different with the gyro on, but still, it is worth noting. I can probably move some things around to push the battery further back, but it doesn't lay flat in the compartment anyways, so there is no good way to restrain it.
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Post by Burkeomatic on Jun 6, 2022 3:09:20 GMT
Winds sustained 17mph, gusting 26. The little fella had a tough time today. I was keeping it close, didn't want it to blow away. I was flying pretty close to proximity, under 30 feet. I was going really low that last past until a big ole gust got me and I ended up getting put into a dirt row.
On a side note, they are doing something to the football field, and I don't have my goal posts to fly through anymore. I hope they are putting artificial turf down, that would be sweet. I hope they aren't putting new sod down or planting grass seed. That would suck, I would have to stay off of it.
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Post by Burkeomatic on Jun 15, 2022 4:11:56 GMT
Well, now that i am set up with ELRS and the way i have been flying, the plane had taken some wear and tear. Believe it or not, i quite frequently flew it beyond it's design specifications. The plane will exceed its 50kmh threshold on 3s no problem and as i had said before, this was not an issue, and I found it to be more high g maneuvers. The tail boom was getting sloppier and sloppier, and i have had a couple of rough landings, not many and an incident where the gyro was inverted on pitch. No real damage, but I had accidentally gotten somewhere between what I would estimate 800-1000 feet up a mile out, which is easy with ELRS. I killed the motor, and pointed it about 50 degrees down toward home, and on the decent, the plane started gyrating very bad and then it snapped into a spiral, it made about 3 rotations then I just let off the controls and it eventually leveled out. I didn't notice it immediately, but right below the motor, the factory glue joint had come undone, and the foam had started to tear. Not sure what came first there, the chicken or the egg. I know I was pulling some pretty serious Gs during that decent and exceeding the design speed by a large amount. So it being loose could have caused it to lose control, then that could have made the rip worse. Oh well, I E6000'd the heck out of it, and put a little tape there to be sure. I was also advised to put some tape on the wingtips where there is no carbon reinforcement and to go back over the carbon spars with glue as well to add stiffness to the wings, which I did. 250g has sailed off into the sunset on this, but it is a fantastic plane which CAN be kept under 250g, but I am not with a 2s1p battery anyways. Here is how she sits right now. 2022-06-14_10-58-30 by Burkeomatic, on Flickr
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